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Kath -> RE: Word of Faith/Prosperity One Stop Thread (6/21/2010 6:01:16 PM)

Laura, I checked his website but you have to pay to get anything. I did find this...

http://www.bible.ca/tongues-encyclopedia-pentecostal-preachers.htm#Cerullo

6. Morris Cerullo is now offering through his television show and web site "God's Victorious Army Financial Breakthrough Spiritual Warfare Bible". Here is the description of how to attain financial freedom and wealth as Cerullo contends Christians should: "This Bible is the definitive word on finances, with special icons designed to lead you throughout God's Word, teaching you about Biblical finances. This beautiful, genuine bonded-leather Bible has more than 2,000 pages, chock full of financial breakthrough principles and spiritual commentaries honed from Morris Cerullo's fifty years of experience serving the Savior ... THIS INCREDIBLE BIBLE CAN BE YOURS FOR A LOVE GIFT OF ONLY $89 OR MORE."

I'm guessing it is in that series.




prophet -> RE: Word of Faith/Prosperity One Stop Thread (6/21/2010 9:30:44 PM)

This is the pastor of the largest singapore church of more than 30,000 Kong Hee and YOU GUESSED IT- another prosperity drivel church says

" Give until your heart is broken"

" Give until tears stream down yer eyes"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8AqyEPkX3A

Now he and some of his workers are under investigation for alleged mis use of funds for a charity org. [:'(]




Sonrise -> RE: Word of Faith/Prosperity One Stop Thread (6/21/2010 11:55:50 PM)

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ORIGINAL: themoodyexperience

Dig Out Your Miracle!
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So for the last two days I've been posting on that youtube page, using scripture to refute that garbage and now all of my posts have been deleted and I've been blocked from posting on that video.




gralan -> RE: Word of Faith/Prosperity One Stop Thread (6/22/2010 12:05:20 AM)

Of course, but at least now they cannot say they were not warned about it. Perhaps your work allowed someone to see the truth. We pray that this is so.

Remember, the life you save could be one of your loved ones.

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ORIGINAL: Sonrise

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ORIGINAL: themoodyexperience

Dig Out Your Miracle!
[:'(][:'(][:'(][:'(][:'(]



So for the last two days I've been posting on that youtube page, using scripture to refute that garbage and now all of my posts have been deleted and I've been blocked from posting on that video.




themoodyexperience -> RE: Word of Faith/Prosperity One Stop Thread (6/22/2010 11:13:36 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Sonrise

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ORIGINAL: themoodyexperience

Dig Out Your Miracle!
[:'(][:'(][:'(][:'(][:'(]



So for the last two days I've been posting on that youtube page, using scripture to refute that garbage and now all of my posts have been deleted and I've been blocked from posting on that video.


Yes because I think it is actually that guy's YouTube page, and of course he doesn't want to be blasted scripturally because that effects the giving.

Just like every other WOFer/prosperity snake oil salesman that can't defend their doctrine scripturally they run from confrontation, hollering 'Don't judge' as they go toward the horizon.




bzirk -> RE: Word of Faith/Prosperity One Stop Thread (6/29/2010 5:16:50 PM)

Somewhere way back in the first half of this thread, I weighed in about the prosperity gospel, and even posted the Piper video Crankius recently posted (oh, and I just love Justin Taylor's blog). Man, that video can't be posted enough.

But I also want to add that understand the attitude that the poster Grace71 was referring to, and by the way, I'm typing this entry for myself -- a little self accountability if you will. I don't want to get on my high horse. There is a difference in speaking truth in love and speaking in arrogance. I hope the Lord keeps convicting me when I do the latter, and I believe He will. LOL




prophet -> RE: Word of Faith/Prosperity One Stop Thread (7/6/2010 10:33:58 PM)

God wants multiply your financial seed! [:'(]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j35ihONRGdY&feature=related




prophet -> RE: Word of Faith/Prosperity One Stop Thread (7/7/2010 1:48:17 AM)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IGV1l6LuZc

And unto the angel of the church in Smyrna write ; These things saith the first and the last, which was dead, and is alive ; 9 I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan. 10 Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer : behold , the devil shall cast some of you into prison, that ye may be tried ; and ye shall have tribulation ten days: be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life.




themoodyexperience -> RE: Word of Faith/Prosperity One Stop Thread (7/8/2010 11:54:18 AM)

Wow. Just.......wow.


Get a Prayer Cloth Soaked with Oil from Joshua Mills’ Feet




Kath -> RE: Word of Faith/Prosperity One Stop Thread (7/8/2010 11:59:47 AM)

Seriously, a true snake oil salesman.




Reform_Dave -> RE: Word of Faith/Prosperity One Stop Thread (7/8/2010 10:43:08 PM)

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ORIGINAL: themoodyexperience

Wow. Just.......wow.


Get a Prayer Cloth Soaked with Oil from Joshua Mills’ Feet

Dont you feel like weeping seeing things like this.[&o]




3cappuccinosmom -> RE: Word of Faith/Prosperity One Stop Thread (7/8/2010 11:54:24 PM)

Wow and also eww. [&:]




themoodyexperience -> RE: Word of Faith/Prosperity One Stop Thread (7/9/2010 10:44:41 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Reform_Dave

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ORIGINAL: themoodyexperience

Wow. Just.......wow.


Get a Prayer Cloth Soaked with Oil from Joshua Mills’ Feet

Dont you feel like weeping seeing things like this.[&o]


Weep, and then knock over some moneychangers tables.




Kath -> RE: Word of Faith/Prosperity One Stop Thread (7/9/2010 2:07:53 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Reform_Dave

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ORIGINAL: themoodyexperience

Wow. Just.......wow.


Get a Prayer Cloth Soaked with Oil from Joshua Mills’ Feet

Dont you feel like weeping seeing things like this.[&o]



I do.

And I wonder how people wouldn't see this for the lie it is, I mean, he has socks on to soak up the oil to put on that paper, cloth, whatever.




themoodyexperience -> RE: Word of Faith/Prosperity One Stop Thread (7/12/2010 9:57:13 PM)

Gold Dust and Gemstones Fell In My House So I'm More Anointed Than You

Wow. This is a masterwork of satire. My hats off to the individual who made this. A big ol' poke in the eye of the hypercharasmatic circus.




rawr.ben -> RE: Word of Faith/Prosperity One Stop Thread (7/15/2010 1:27:47 PM)

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ORIGINAL: themoodyexperience

Gold Dust and Gemstones Fell In My House So I'm More Anointed Than You

Wow. This is a masterwork of satire. My hats off to the individual who made this. A big ol' poke in the eye of the hypercharasmatic circus.


Wow. I think I'm a believer now.




sirwintery -> RE: Word of Faith/Prosperity One Stop Thread (7/15/2010 2:11:21 PM)

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ORIGINAL: themoodyexperience

Gold Dust and Gemstones Fell In My House So I'm More Anointed Than You

Wow. This is a masterwork of satire. My hats off to the individual who made this. A big ol' poke in the eye of the hypercharasmatic circus.


I saw it, and my reaction was: This is artistic genius! When telling people that someone is planting feathers, gems, etc., is just not working, this video may be what it takes.




Soxfan -> RE: Word of Faith/Prosperity One Stop Thread (7/19/2010 6:35:17 PM)

Still a classic!!!

Bob Tilton...One of the WoF's legends!




StephK -> RE: Word of Faith/Prosperity One Stop Thread (7/19/2010 7:19:56 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Soxfan

Still a classic!!!

Bob Tilton...One of the WoF's legends!


That is a classic for sure. [:D]




themoodyexperience -> RE: Word of Faith/Prosperity One Stop Thread (8/3/2010 12:33:25 PM)

I had a touch of insomnia last night and decided to watch TV and was greeted with the WOF/Prosperity After Dark cavalcade. A few wolves I'd never heard of:

Dr. Todd Coontz. First of all his website is RockWealth.org if that tells you anything. He must have said the word 'seed' 100 times in 30 minutes. Isn't the seed in the Bible the gospel, and not a '1000 dollar Battle Seed'? Yes you read that right. And did you know by partaking of Todd's Fed-EX/UPS anointing (yep) from which he receives monthly checks you can have triple favor (is this a gameshow?) and the Niagra of favor will explode in a breakthrough? (Wow. All the buzz words in one.) He did mention an association with good ol' Benny.


Master Prophet E. Bernard Jordan. I'm sorry I thought the purpose of a prophet was to speak for God and not sit there with your family chanting phrases that glorify yourself while showing graphics of you in the clouds in a prayer pose. It was 17 minutes into a 30 minute program before the Lord was mentioned and then only by a woman giving her 'testimony' about how she obeyed THE PROPHET. Oh and to hear from the prophet, you need to sow your 'favor seed' (wow, a twofer!) And are there grades of prophet? What makes you a MASTER prophet?

All I can say is good thing this garbage isn't on during the day.




Reform_Dave -> RE: Word of Faith/Prosperity One Stop Thread (8/3/2010 9:16:03 PM)

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What makes you a MASTER prophet?

The ability to make great profit off of the name of God.




32k -> RE: Word of Faith/Prosperity One Stop Thread (8/4/2010 3:38:45 PM)

"In the same way, the Lord commanded that those who proclaim the gospel should get their living by the gospel. But I have made no use of any of these rights, nor am I writing these things to secure any such provision. For I would rather die than have anyone deprive me of my ground for boasting. For if I preach the gospel, that gives me no ground for boasting. For necessity is laid upon me. Woe to me if I do not preach the gospel!" - 1 Cor. 9:14-16 (ESV Bolded for emphasis)




themoodyexperience -> RE: Word of Faith/Prosperity One Stop Thread (8/4/2010 3:43:08 PM)

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ORIGINAL: 32k

"In the same way, the Lord commanded that those who proclaim the gospel should get their living by the gospel. But I have made no use of any of these rights, nor am I writing these things to secure any such provision. For I would rather die than have anyone deprive me of my ground for boasting. For if I preach the gospel, that gives me no ground for boasting. For necessity is laid upon me. Woe to me if I do not preach the gospel!" - 1 Cor. 9:14-16 (ESV)


Not sure what he point of you posting this is. If you are pro-prosperity gospel, then the verse doesn't apply because they are NOT preaching the gospel (Christ and him crucified). They are trying to use God like a cosmic slot machine to get what they want.

If you are posting this with an emphasis on the second part of the passage, then Amen! And it's a verse I never really read that much in depth before and thanks for posting!




32k -> RE: Word of Faith/Prosperity One Stop Thread (8/4/2010 4:17:18 PM)

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If you are posting this with an emphasis on the second part of the passage, then Amen! And it's a verse I never really read that much in depth before and thanks for posting!

Posting for the second part. Forgot to put it in bold.




32k -> RE: Word of Faith/Prosperity One Stop Thread (8/4/2010 4:27:14 PM)

Gotta admit that i'm still confused on the mini-gods thing..

"The Jews answered him, "It is not for a good work that we are going to stone you but for blasphemy, because you, being a man, make yourself God." Jesus answered them, "Is it not written in your Law, 'I said, you are gods'? If he called them gods to whom the word of God came--and Scripture cannot be broken-- " - John 10:33-35 (ESV)

Are we mini-gods?




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